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PENTULTIMA have released a new single called Black Cat Blues. Its style is reminiscent of Cream, Led Zepellin and Knopfler. Plse check it out and let me know what you think. Black Cat BluesCheers, Luke PENTULTIMA's HOME PAGE
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Cream, Led Zeppelin, and KNOPFLER? Mark Knopfler? This I gotta hear!
after listening, I definitely hear the Knopfler influence, and the Led, but not Cream.
Gotta have Ginger Baker-ish drums for the Cream Sound!
jeff
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jwalin wrote:Cream, Led Zeppelin, and KNOPFLER? Mark Knopfler? This I gotta hear!
after listening, I definitely hear the Knopfler influence, and the Led, but not Cream.
Gotta have Ginger Baker-ish drums for the Cream Sound!
jeff Hi Jeff, Thanks for your comment. I'd love to have a real drummer do the drums...any takers? :) Luke
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I liked it a LOT! I did hear the Cream influence ... particularly in the vocals. If I could make one small suggestion: I found the lead guitar much more effective in the second verse (starting at about the 1:00 mark). Having it come in as an accent or "sting" after a line adds MUCH more drama that having it playing constantly behind the vocal. Just an opinion ... very good job. Thanks for sharing! Jim
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Sounding good, Luke! But (and forgive me)...I (really) didn't hear "Cream, Knopfler, or Zep," in there.
That's not a bad thing, at all...and, maybe it's just "me?" After all, Jim said "he did!" So...???
But, keep it up, regardless!
Cheers,
CB
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MIDIMan56 wrote:I liked it a LOT!
I did hear the Cream influence ... particularly in the vocals. If I could make one small suggestion: I found the lead guitar much more effective in the second verse (starting at about the 1:00 mark). Having it come in as an accent or "sting" after a line adds MUCH more drama that having it playing constantly behind the vocal.
Just an opinion ... very good job. Thanks for sharing!
Jim
Hi Jim, Thanks for your comments. I too considered using the lead as a "sting" as you put it..but most songs are written that way...I recall Santana seems to play along rather than in between his singers..but hey I'll give it a try soon and put it up again..I've spent so long on mixing down it drove me nuts lol..Cheers and thanx again Jim. :)
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Charlie Brown wrote:Sounding good, Luke! But (and forgive me)...I (really) didn't hear "Cream, Knopfler, or Zep," in there.
That's not a bad thing, at all...and, maybe it's just "me?" After all, Jim said "he did!" So...???
But, keep it up, regardless!
Cheers,
CB HI CB, Ty for your comments. Really I dont mind at all that you think it doesn't sound like the big 3 I mentioned...but you know how it goes..you try to relate what you do to the legends in order to give people an idea of what you've got before they listen. Cheers, Luke :)
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jwalin wrote:Cream, Led Zeppelin, and KNOPFLER? Mark Knopfler? This I gotta hear!
after listening, I definitely hear the Knopfler influence, and the Led, but not Cream.
Gotta have Ginger Baker-ish drums for the Cream Sound!
jeff hey jwalin... I got ginger to sit in lol...actually my bad..I had one lousy beat goin thru the song..no rolls, no changes..its all good now but I will give it time to settle in before I update the song online...I owe u a ceegar..Cheeers, Luke :)
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I think, as far as Cream goes, Bakers drum playing MADE their sound much more than any one single element. Yeah, Jack Bruce's playing and singing were very distinctive, but to me Baker makes the mix.
after listening again, I hear the White room style of drumming for this song.....get some Cream out and just listen to Ginger's playing......he is awesome.
He's a Badass.....much like Levon Helm to me MADE the Band.
p.s. have you heard Levon Helm's new record, Electric Dirt? It ain't bad!
p.s.s. I'm also a huge Knopfler fan, mainly from the first two Dire Straits record. That clean Knopfler sound is my favorite strat tone.....
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jwalin wrote:I think, as far as Cream goes, Bakers drum playing MADE their sound much more than any one single element. Yeah, Jack Bruce's playing and singing were very distinctive, but to me Baker makes the mix.
after listening again, I hear the White room style of drumming for this song.....get some Cream out and just listen to Ginger's playing......he is awesome.
He's a Badass.....much like Levon Helm to me MADE the Band.
p.s. have you heard Levon Helm's new record, Electric Dirt? It ain't bad!
p.s.s. I'm also a huge Knopfler fan, mainly from the first two Dire Straits record. That clean Knopfler sound is my favorite strat tone..... Hi Jeff, I had a listen to White Room and Ginger did make that song special...I havent been as fluid as he is there in my drums remake but it at least sounds like a real drummer lol...had a listen to Levon Helm...not bad ty!!..As for Knopfler well that man pulled a unique style of playing out of his ass it seems..just when you thought you'd heard it all..in fact Im finding I prefer to play with fingers rather than a pick a lot these days..why use 1 pick when u got 5? lol..only problem is where do u shove that pick meanwhile? lol..Luke
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Lukesteele wrote:Hi Jeff, I had a listen to White Room and Ginger did make that song special...I havent been as fluid as he is there in my drums remake but it at least sounds like a real drummer lol...had a listen to Levon Helm...not bad ty!!..As for Knopfler well that man pulled a unique style of playing out of his ass it seems..just when you thought you'd heard it all..in fact Im finding I prefer to play with fingers rather than a pick a lot these days..why use 1 pick when u got 5? lol..only problem is where do u shove that pick meanwhile? lol..Luke I grow my index finger nail long, and use it when I need the 'pick' sound. to me, it is just more natural to play with no pick.... have you seen the early Dire Straits stuff on youtube?
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jwalin wrote:I grow my index finger nail long, and use it when I need the 'pick' sound. to me, it is just more natural to play with no pick....
have you seen the early Dire Straits stuff on youtube? Hmmm.. I've noticed my finger nails dont hold up too well to strumming on steel strings...no I havent seen the Straits there..I suppose you're talking bout sultans of swing, romeo and juliet, money for nothing? All classic stuff there...:)
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It's definitely a good song
But does a song that sounds very much like other rock classics
deserve to become a new rock classic?
New rock classics are songs that are innovative and different
I like it though, the lead guitar sounds very very very much like how I play with my band
We have a much more contemporary sound though then their classic rock sound
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RenegadeMaster wrote:It's definitely a good song
But does a song that sounds very much like other rock classics
deserve to become a new rock classic?
New rock classics are songs that are innovative and different
I like it though, the lead guitar sounds very very very much like how I play with my band
We have a much more contemporary sound though then their classic rock sound Hi RenegadeMaster and ty for your comments. I just finished watching "The Boat that Rocked" which was full of 60's classic songs and all I can say is "they just dont write them like that anymore"...I still want to...:) I'd like to hear your music sometime. Cheers, Luke PENTULTIMA
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Lukesteele wrote:Hmmm.. I've noticed my finger nails dont hold up too well to strumming on steel strings...no I havent seen the Straits there..I suppose you're talking bout sultans of swing, romeo and juliet, money for nothing? All classic stuff there...:) I'm talking about Once Upon a Time in the West, News, Sultans of Swing, Down to the Waterline, In the Gallery, Wild West End. If you haven't heard "Dire Straits' and 'Communique' drop what you are doing right now and get them. Jeff
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Mr. Lukesteele Though we dig your music, there's no need to start a new thread about the same song in every forum... So I merged your new thread that you started in the Electric forum with this thread. Now if you want to start a new/separate thread about a different song, I have no issue with that. _______________________________________________________________________________________Randee & Julia
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